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  Westmoreland County
Posted by: bluefishnc - 4 hours ago - Forum: Deer Hunting - No Replies

So I just picked up a lease in Westmoreland County and I'm very excited about it but having not hunted the Northern Neck for anything but waterfowl I'm a bit confused on the hunting rules. I'm mainly planning hunt this property with a bow but might given the right conditions want to hunt it with a shotgun or muzzleloader. Looking at the local firearms ordinances for Westmoreland County it reads:

"50. It shall be unlawful for any person to hunt in the county with a shotgun loaded with slugs or a muzzleloading rifle other than during the prescribed open season for the hunting of big game species or with a rifle of a caliber larger than .22 caliber."

My question is what the heck does that mean? Does it mean I can only hunt with a muzzleloader during general firearms season or can I hunt with a muzzleloader "during the prescribed open season "ie. early muzzleloader deer season". I'm guessing it means you can only shoot slugs/muzzleloaders in general firearms season and no rifle hunting period for deer.

Can anyone confirm? Thanks in advance for any insight.

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Posted by: Hunt for food - Yesterday, 09:32 PM - Forum: Freshwater Fishing - Replies (2)

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  First trail cam pics
Posted by: Hunt for food - 08-17-2017, 09:41 PM - Forum: Deer Hunting - Replies (3)

These are a few of the first pics I got now I can't wait to look nexy time hurry up Oct. and since the race is in town this weekend I will be heading out of town to the woods[Image: 52a3ce94c4ac498789543ede21d5f88b.jpg][Image: 02738b4726d88414c698f602b50af586.jpg][Image: e8b3a7687d360145b962d3f9008dc08c.jpg]

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  Water Quandary: Should You Ground-Swat Ducks and Geese?
Posted by: Thummy - 08-17-2017, 12:39 PM - Forum: Waterfowl Hunting - Replies (8)

This is a good article

Water Quandary: Should You Ground-Swat Ducks and Geese?


We hold some truths, to paraphrase Mr. Jefferson, to be self-evident. In the waterfowling world, one such tenet is that birds should be shot while flying, not standing, sitting or swimming (with the exception of cripples).
But when a well-meaning co-worker recently questioned that principle, it made me pause. “Why do you have to shoot them in the air?” he said. “Dead is dead. I let them swim in. Bam. Duck dinner.”
He had a point. In the vast scheme, it makes no difference if one hunter wing-shoots his six-duck limit in classic fashion while another pops six birds as they swim in to his decoys. The bottom line is 12 dead ducks. And I’m guessing the ducks don’t care how they died.
Further, a pragmatist might point out, the water-swatted ducks likely only have pellets in their heads, making them potentially better table fare. And a historian of our sport would quickly admit that the first North American waterfowl hunters probably didn’t waste too many arrows or other projectiles trying to kill flying birds. Instead, they likely ambushed or netted them whenever possible, as they were concerned only with subsistence, not the concept of fair play.
Actually, the idea of wing-shooting any bird is relatively new. Until some time in the 17th century, hunters typically netted or ensnared birds. It wasn’t until after the invention of the flintlock that wing-shooting became popular in Europe, and even then, it was practiced almost entirely by nobility. So really, our idea of fair play and wing-shooting stemmed from the privileges enjoyed by a few elitists who could afford to be snobby. I’m just guessing that a French peasant in the 17th century wasn’t too concerned about jumping ducks before killing them to feed his struggling family.
Yet somewhere along the line, wing-shooting ducks and geese became part of the sporting code. The practice of shooting standing or swimming birds was labeled with almost vulgar terms, such as sluicing, ground-swatting, ground-pounding, water-swatting or — my favorite — Arkansasing. (Not sure on the origins of that one. Any insights from the Arkansas crowd?) Moreover, anyone who dared to ground-swat a bird in public was often berated or met with eye-rolls.
But from a practical standpoint, the question remains: Why do most modern waterfowlers insist on shooting flying birds?
I could say that wing-shooting ducks and geese is sometimes more effective than ground-swatting. After all, a mallard cupped over your spread, chest exposed, is a better target than a bufflehead bobbing in the chop, with only 1 square inch of vital area (brain) exposed. (Seriously, have you tried to sluice butterballs when it’s wavy? You’re better off herding cats.) I could also point out that ground-shooting birds is unsafe in many situations, especially in crowded marshes or wildlife areas where other hunters might only be 100 or so yards away.
But the main reason, of course, is that ground-swatting birds, as Gordon MacQuarrie wrote, is “a bit rough.” That is, killing a flying duck or goose requires much more skill than shooting a motionless target. Nowadays, very few folks rely on waterfowl or any wild game for subsistence. Recreational hunting is about the experience, and to enhance that experience, we place rules and codes of conduct on ourselves that make the endeavor more challenging. Every duck or goose we shoot on the wing is an affirmation that we’ve developed a good skill set and that the bird at least had a chance to beat us.
Personally, I rarely get that deep when contemplating the subject. I just enjoy wing-shooting much more than ground-swatting. Yeah, I cringe when I miss a tough airborne target, but that’s part of the game. I’d rather whiff on a skyrocketing bluebill than water-swat a seemingly hapless ruddy duck swimming through the blocks. Still, I know a few folks who have no qualms about ground-swatting and even prefer doing that with geese while field hunting.
Bottom line: Decide for yourself. Use whatever method you enjoy, provided you’re safe and take ethical shots. I might hold you in higher esteem if you wing-shoot six teal versus water-popping them, but that’s probably just my inner snob coming out.

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  Monday - Wednesday
Posted by: nLaudy - 08-17-2017, 02:00 AM - Forum: Saltwater Fishing - Replies (1)

Been fishing the Potomac after work each day. Mainly been focusing on Stripers but there are TON of croaker, spot, and perch around also.

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  A little bird told me.............
Posted by: BiggBirdd - 08-16-2017, 09:12 PM - Forum: General Discussion - Replies (7)

From a reliable source.........Seems VDGIF did a long extensive investigation into foxes and yotes being brought across state lines. They were stock for the fox pens. Supposedly 40 people got arrested.

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  Best All Purpose Camouflage patterns
Posted by: mad dog 21 - 08-16-2017, 07:10 PM - Forum: Deer Hunting - Replies (22)

Trying to figure out what the most commonly used (based on number of responses provided) camouflaged pattern is used for both the deer and turkey season (thinking all purpose) here in VA? Trying to avoid buying multiple sets of camouflage if possible.

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  That's a big nope
Posted by: Bucksnort32 - 08-16-2017, 10:07 AM - Forum: General Discussion - Replies (2)

Saw this on facebook and my first thought was.... NOPE, not if you are a hunter!  Can't WAIT for fall.

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Video Going Flat!
Posted by: cut_un - 08-16-2017, 07:33 AM - Forum: Waterfowl Hunting - Replies (5)

Guys... nothing wrong with a spread of 2D goose decoys!  When out out at the different angles, it gives the illusion of movement in the spread! Fun stuff!  Also.... the pick-up, removal  is a lot quicker ! Can set up a spread in a few mins.!   Plus, you can store doz. of decoys and they protective satchels in a small space!    Several folks make em and compared to the purchase of a big ole full body, a lot better invest your wallet!    If, when you shop are .. take a look at  Big Al's  silos!  I think you will like what you see! I know, for a fact, the geese do!

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  Would you shoot it?
Posted by: HeidelbergJaeger - 08-15-2017, 09:55 PM - Forum: General Discussion - Replies (5)

Sweden has a genetic mutation in a moose that we commonly see in whitetails. Albinoism is pretty much a death sentence for animals due their inability to conceal themselves.

If faced with this guy, would you let him walk or squeeze away?

Ps, no wrong answers, just curious.

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